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Jul 26Liked by Pat Johnson

As a Jew, it is profoundly heartening to hear a non-Jew express such a clear understanding of our angst and to stand up for us with such moral courage.

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Jul 26Liked by Pat Johnson

You are a righteous gentile and a true friend. I am thankful for you. Every single one of your points will be utterly rejected by the hateful monsters who call themselves progressives. You are a unique exception.

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Jul 26Liked by Pat Johnson

Thank you, you are a courageous beacon and ally. We know on which side of history you are, we the Jewish people and we see you.

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Jul 26Liked by Pat Johnson

Thank you for writing this!

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Jul 26Liked by Pat Johnson

thorough and cogent summary. many thanks

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This is an amazing piece! Thank you! I will share this far and wide with the hope that it will help at least a few understand!

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Thanks Leslie!

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Yet again you’ve articulated so much of how and what I feel beautifully.

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Thanks David!

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Thank you. Everything is so well delineated.

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Extremely well put in a nutshell the truth . Their is no argument for antisemitism ever

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Very well said! Why not also talk about the other elephant in the room: What has caused this seismic shift in the left’s negative opinions towards Zionists and Israel? What has led to their unconditional support of Islamists and terrorism? Our educational systems have been hijacked and our youth have been brainwashed by the woke DEI ideology. The binary thought system of oppressed/oppressor is the root cause. This system must be dismantled and rebuilt if we have any chance of peaceful coexistence!

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"2. Start acting like antiracists. Stop acting like racists. We might expect this behavior from right-wing extremists, who deny the presence of racism and dismiss invitations to self-examination. But it’s (mostly) not coming from those people."

Suck a bag of dicks, Pat Johnson. This rational Jew (meaning you label me a right wing extremist) has had it with this bullshit pushed by race-hustlers like that "White Fragility" fraud, that is like every conspiracy theory perfect in its concept.

If you are a white man and claim to perceive this "systemic racism" crap, then you are "an ally who is in tune with the social reality." If you are a white man who grew up in a post-racial society, lived his whole life colorblind and says so, then he is either in denial or delusional about this nonsense about "systemic racism." Either way, this idiotic belief circle maintains the white man is a racist. It's insulting bullshit and this bitch DiAngelo has made millions getting corporations to pay her shakedown money - because the CEO and Board don't have to sit through her bullshit propaganda time wasting sessions, only the subordinates need suffer through this crap.

I stopped reading everything after this. If you are this wrong on this point, why should I believe you're right about anything else?

I am glad in general you're calling out dumbasses, but we Jews have always known this "I'm not anti Jewish, I am anti-Zionist" is total crap.

I'd urge you to reflect on my comments, because one of the biggest social wedges - created by The Left - in decades has been this bullshit about invisible (to me and many other people) "systemic racism" miasma.

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Oh my. That's a lot of words.

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Here’s one more. Mute. Life is too short for your bullshit.

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I might suggest getting up half an hour earlier to accommodate my bullshit. It really seems like a time-management thing.

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Anyone not fiercely anti-zionist is a jew hater.

Zionism is the opposite of Judaism in every way. It is an anti-human, anti-jewish, atheistic supremacist genocidal nazi movement.

It is Jesuit built and has utter contempt for Jews and Judaism.

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Just curious - what do you get called if you support Israel’s right to exist and defend itself against Hamas but DON’T think Israel should be planting settlements and annexing the West Bank as Israel’s political right wing seems to want to do?

I’m one of many non-Israelis who think that and yet somehow in any conversation we always seem to get lumped in with the “anti-Semites”.

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Aug 1Liked by Pat Johnson

There is a long history that led up to the settlements, they weren’t there in 1948 when Israel was made a state. The partition plan gave many very holy meaningful sites to Palestine. Hebron, where the patriarchs & matriarchs of Judaism are buried, Jericho , Rachel’s tomb all were in land given to the Palestinians. Jerusalem was to be a shared capital. Orthodox rabbis and deeply religious were not happy about this, these sites are very holy and meaningful to them as Mecca would be to a Muslim . The rabbis who led these communities discussed it, it was troubling, but IN THE NAME OF PEACE and out of gratitude for having a state they accepted it and started to build a country on what they were given. At some point the western wall, one of the holiest places in Judaism came under Jordanian control and unlike Al Aqsa, Jews were not allowed to go near it. In 1968 when Israel was invaded on all sides by 3 Arab nations (with countries of their own) in hopes of destroying all of Israel & driving the Jews out, the Rabbi’s realized that no sacrifice or concessions were going to lead to peace. Arabs wanted Israel destroyed, and NOTHING that the Jews could do would change that. It’s not about land or a Palestinian state, if it was they had that in 1948. Maybe it wasn’t exactly how they wanted it, it wasn’t exactly how the Jews wanted it but it was really up to Britain & the UN how it was to be divided because they controlled it after WW1 when the Ottoman Empire lost it. That said, the settlers want the settlements and West Bank because they are religious & feel like it’s part of the land that Gd gave them in the Bible & they tried playing nice because they felt peace was a higher value than land in Gd’s eyes but that never happened. The right in Israel would probably not be as supportive of the settlements if they didn’t feel that they were a buffer zone between the West Bank with lots of people who want to kill them and very populated areas of Israel on the other side of that border. Have you been to Israel? Settlements are like fortresses guarded 24/7 by the IDF. Look at what happened near Gaza and that was in a very sparsely populated area. If terrorists in the West Bank carried out something like that the death toll would have been much higher. It’s like Gaza being next to Wyoming or next to NYC. Would be hard to attack like that from the West Bank because they would have to get through the highly guarded settlements. As long as the Palestinians keep doing things like this it just makes the settlements less likely to be removed.

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The thing I always want to hear but rarely if ever do from people trying to justify the settlements is where they think this is all headed in the future. More specifically, what they think should happen to the 3 million Palestinians who currently live in the West Bank.

Given that the Israeli right and an increasing percentage of ordinary Israeli voters seem to feel that the West Bank (“Judea and Samaria”) must ultimately become part of Israel, what should happen to these 3 million inconvenient people who cannot be given Israeli citizenship given that they’re non-Jews whose ongoing presence on this land would represent a significant security as well as demographic threat to the Jewish state?

Forced “transfer”? It’s certainly been discussed by more than one Israeli politician, but how would this actually work in practice? Simply force these 3 million people into Jordan? How would that work? Jordan has made peace with Israel, so driving the Palestinians into Jordan would necessarily entail a war.

Maybe force them into Lebanon? Given that the Lebanese state barely functions, perhaps this could actually work, although it would no doubt be a violent and bloody affair.

Drive them into the Sinai peninsula? But the Sinai belongs to Egypt which has also made peace with Israel, so again, that would entail war.

Maybe just put them all in boats and push them into the Levant?

Giving up on the two-state idea and deciding that the West Bank has to be made part of Israel necessarily leads people to think about all of this. And no, it’s not “anti-semitic” for non-Jews in the rest of the world to ask what Israel’s ultimate plans are for these 3 million people.

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I think the answer lies with what the Palestinians want. Most Israeli’s that are not religious & want settlements , want them not for ideological reasons but because they are a buffer zone between large population centers and people (& much of their leadership) who have NO desire to live next to Israel & will only stop fighting & killing when Palestine is from the river to the sea. There is not one Jew living in the West Bank, there are many Arabs living in Israel. Where are all the Israeli’s going to go? More people want the settlements now because the Israeli’s, who have to live in these conditions, see their need as a security buffer zone and are slowly giving up their sincere hope of living as peaceful cooperative neighbors. I heard someone speak about having them keep Gaza & giving them part of the Sinai. This would actually be wonderful for them, populations of Palestinians would not be divided by a land mass, they would have a longer coast line for trade, easier for Israel to secure, but Egypt would never agree. They built unbelievable barrier to keep them away during this war ( which no one protesting seems the least bit bothered by, incidentally ). Not sure if the Palestinians would take it anyway. They really don’t seem nearly as determined to have an independent state as they are to drive the Jews out of the Middle East. Jews from all the surrounding Arab countries were expelled after Israel given independence, Israel absorbed them all. Many had lived in these countries for generations, had businesses there which they were not compensated for, and they are living & thriving in Israel. If they would live in the West Bank & concentrate on growing their economy, taking care of their citizens, being neighbors with Israel, stop killing & attacking Israelis & for the few crazies who do, let them punish them & stop naming streets after them & paying their families forever. If the Palestinians would police their own people most Israeli’s would give up the settlements, even conservative ones. There are some religious who would fight it, but they would be over ruled by the vast majority of people & I think the religious would go along if they were living side by side in peace & with full access to their holy sites. Israel removed every Jew living in Gaza, they had homes & businesses, Sharon came to America hat in hand asking for money to resettle & compensate them and we gave ( none of us with as much money as many of the Saudi’s, Qatari’s , etc). All this for the hope of peace- what did that get us? Don’t be stupid. October 7th was Iran. The Palestinian people have been used as pawns for years by places like Iran who just wants to destroy Israel & control the Middle East & Palestinian leaders who are billionaires from the money they are stealing. I can understand why the people in Palestine don’t see this, their media is controlled they mercilessly kill suspected collaborators, their schools & media preach propaganda from the time their small; but for the life of me I don’t understand why Palestinians who get out & worse people living in free countries are so blind to this. I think antisemitism has to be part of what’s fueling it, along with lack of knowledge, and lack of intellectual curiosity, possibly manipulation by people praying on people’s sympathies for the lives of the Palestinians. I think everyone on all sides of this question feel sympathy for the plight of the average Palestinian as a person, we just disagree on how & why this is their situation, and Israelis shouldn’t have to pay the price with their lives.

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I read everything you wrote and appreciate both the sentiment and the tone, but it’s interesting that you didn’t really answer my question at the end of all of it.

So if the Palestinians change their behavior, which I certainly agree, they should, will this actually lead to an independent state for them someday? I question Israel’s plans in that regard, and in any case there’s very little land to give them at this juncture, with ongoing settlements consuming more and more as time goes on. Israelis will likely need at least a generation or two of good behavior on the part of the Palestinians to feel convinced that an independent state for them is a reasonable option. At the rate settlements / confiscations / annexation are occurring, however, by then the amount of territory left to create a Palestinian state will probably be smaller than the territory of Liechtenstein.

So anyway, although I agree with much of what you write in that the Palestinians need to signal a willingness to change, I disagree that there’s no equivalent obligation on the part of Israel to also change its behavior, particularly with regard to its oppressive occupation and creeping annexationist policies in the West Bank. Honestly, it’s unreasonable to expect any change, on the part of younger Palestinians in particular, as long as Israel persists in this behavior and these policies. Palestinians need to sense that there’s actually some hope for an independent state in the future if they change their behavior, they can’t simply be expected to do so when the Israeli government and people tell them it’s “never” an option, as they currently do, and continue to gradually nibble away more and more of the already limited territory out of which such a state could be fashioned.

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Thanks all. Some thoughtful comments here. The only thing I would really take exception to is the idea that settlements are a genuine barrier to peace. THe basic fact is that the vast majority (90%?) live basically adjacent to Israel. A final status agrement would make that part of Israel with trade-offs. That is what would have happened und er Oslo. Moreover, Israel has demonstrated, in Sinai and in Gaza, their willingness to uproot settlers in the faint hope of peace. So the argument is largely moot. In fact, ignoring that historical evidence may stand of a foundation of antisemitic ideas of Jewish avarice. Further, if you have been to Israel and Palestine, you know that the Liechtenstein analogy is puerile. This is a small territory compared to, say, Canada, yes. But there is no end of land. It is literally almost all barren, as almost everyone lives in the cities and villages. This may sound like a simplistic thing to say, but it is nevertheless true. There is plenty of land. No need to fight over it. I address this more thoroughly in a different post: https://pat604johnson.substack.com/p/are-settlements-a-barrier-to-peace

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If most of the land is “barren”, then why does Israel need to keep taking more and more of it? To put it differently, why is it seemingly impossible for Israel to stop its annexations and begin treating the native Arab population of the West Bank, the majority of whom are NOT actively engaged in any sort of insurrection at the present time, more humanely?

I’ve seen maps of the West Bank often enough at this point to sense that the only nations that have ever looked as geographically discombobulated as what’s been proposed for the Palestinians were the “homelands” created by South Africa for its inconvenient black population back in the 1970s.

The reason Israel has lost so much sympathy around the world is largely because it’s continually insisting that every last iota of blame with regard to the present impasse is to be laid at the feet of the Palestinians, and that its own actions have been utterly perfect in every regard throughout all of this. Sorry, but a majority of non-Jews around the world can see that this isn’t so; your own greatest ally, the US, has been telling you for decades, in vain, to stop planting the settlements and contain settler violence against the Palestinians.

Honestly, I see no reason for the Palestinians to change their behavior if Israel doesn’t change ITS behavior with regard to the West Bank, given that annexation of pretty much all the land there seems to be Israel’s ultimate goal. Actions in this regard speak much louder than words. If Israel genuinely wants peace, it needs to take some steps as well that will reassure Palestinians, and the rest of the world, that it does in fact believe in ultimately “sharing the land”. That means stopping further settlements now, including ones around Jerusalem.

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Just curious - what do you get called if you support Israel’s right to exist and defend itself against Hamas but DON’T think Israel should be planting settlements and annexing the West Bank as Israel’s political right wing seems to want to do?

I’m one of many non-Israelis who think that and yet somehow in any conversation we always seem to get lumped in with the “anti-Semites”.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for this.

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