You are so right. I did not originate this, but there is a great picture out on the internet of people marching with Queers for Palestine shirts. The other half of the picture is a bunch of chickens and the caption reads "Chickens for KFC". Just about right. Thank you. Pat for some sanity. Happy Gay Pride Weekend.
On the assumption that a genocide is taking place, the victims' homophobia is indeed irrelevant. Homophobes have human rights too. My question is not why queers support Palestine, but why they support Palestine *as* queers, as distinct from "people opposed to genocide".
Imo, this is a malignant manifestation of "intersectionality". All oppressions are interrelated. The white man is the opporessor; queers are oppressed; brown (say) people can't be oppressors, not even against brown queers. In reality, intersectionality would be exactly the recognition that brown queers are doubly fucked, but brown queers are killed and then their murderers are excused on grounds of white oppression.
I always voted for a leftist party that championed arab-israeli rights and gay rights. A gay Arab man I used to chat with voted for the Israeli right. I asked him "but why? There's a party that supports Arabs, and gays, and your party supports neither". His answer was that he's not as scared of Jewish racism as he is of Arab homophobia and he needs a strong Israel to survive. There's your intersectionality.
Recently I stumbled across an excellent article on the “Canadian Zionist Forum” substack, which itself is based on a series of four articles on fathomjournal.org by retired professor of philosophy and bioethics Eve Garrard, who specialized in the psychological basis of evil - they offer a unique perspective on the underlying causes of antisemitism - highly recommended:
One of your best newsletters since I subscribed at the beginning of May, Pat.
"According to the pinkwashing conspiracy theory, the Israeli body politic made a decision to grant equality not out of any concern for LGBTQ+ people, but in a craven effort to get away with some master plan to oppress Palestinians.
Pinkwashing is an allegation that is sustainable only in an environment festering with the most extreme preexisting ideas of Jewish guile. Only through this bigoted lens could gay people possibly look at the situation in the region and declare Israel our enemy and Palestinians (their governments and, yes, their people, who according to opinion polls are among the most homophobic on earth) our ideological allies. On this, as on so much else, activists betray not only the people with whom we claim solidarity, but our very values themselves."
Recently, I think I commented in response to one of Pat's recent newsletters upon the observation of feminist psychologist Phyllis Chesler and two of her colleagues that younger feminists opposed to the joint effort to remove the violent misogynist Taliban from power two decades ago may be doing so in order to enhance their own claim to victimhood at the hands of the (western) "patriarchy" through association with a perceived "underdog".
I think there's another thread that runs through the abuse hurled at Israel as a "settler-colonial project" from people of any and all sexual preferences, who are either citizens of one of the European countries that once colonized parts of Asia, Africa and the Americas, or non-indigenous citizens of any of those former colonies. The Israeli stand-up comic Yohay Sponder got at it in response to a British woman, asking if she had ever looked at a map ... Israel so tiny you have to blow up the map 6 times to see it and even then, the name doesn't fit. So, whether you're a citizen of a European country that was formerly imperial power or a non-indigenous citizen of a former colony, you can cleanse yourself of whatever guilt you may feel over your country's past, and even present, by damning Israel. And of course, somehow it's been accepted as the natural order of things that parts of Asia and Africa that were conquered during the Islamic Conquests 1300 year ago, is for them to remain Muslim for eternity and never mind the ethno-religious minorities that have managed to survive, somehow, into the 21st century, primarily in a diaspora.
So yes, "pinksoiling" does seem a very fitting hashtag for the hypocrites who whitewash the violently homophobic Islamist entities that have brought so much suffering to Asia and Africa in order to revive former empires that just didn't happen to be European.
love it....pink soilin'! Eat too much fake food dye (like drinkin' the cherry kool aid?) an' then poopin' it out like so much verbal litterin' is as good an anal-oogie as I kin think of ha ha... What goes hand in hand (cheek ta cheek?) with this whole "Israel is really a fascist state an' just pretends ta be pro-gay state" bulloney is this angle they take ....
1. bb bans journalists from coverin' HamAss--hence state run press only! (now....HamAss / Al Jazz Era thugs that ain't jounalists are dubious sources fer sure...I won't justy-fry the bannin' but fergadsakes when Haaretz, the paper of wreck-herd, is a total anti-zionist lefty rag that trashes jus' bout anybuddy...how is that supressin the press?
2. Candace OW-in's insists Arabs live in gated slums so that ain't no democratic state--it's pure slavery....apartheid!.... an' the 20% of the pop-u-last that is Arab....if they live in Arab neibs that's by cherce but I think they do far better there than in Gaza...
3. b/c gubbamint there corrupt (ha! that's a rich one!) we got Biden bonin' his daughter, his son Hunter bonin' his dead bro's widow an' some underage chinese gals--an' BB is a corrupt fascist b/c he partook of spendy cee-gars an' Sara of some champagne & bracelets? CORRUPT?! I mean c'mon...
4. it's not a "free" place fer anyone (gays included) b/c they stop folks from travelin' an' imposed da green pass... THIS is true, rotten' an' yet the USA itself did it's own just as doity... here in NewYawk they had "Empire Pass"... same kinda Big B(r)other thing....
5. the "freedumbs" in Israel fer gays & their lettin' women have bigger roles in the IDF is b/c the entire state is one big orgy (shame on them?!) which they profit from MIGHTILY (such goes the accusation)--i.e. it's about MONEY MONEY MONEY (joos & money)...not about "real" freedoms. Noble judges of Israel's "moral character" say as a state it's the most Tower of Bable/Babylon sex-drugs-rock-n-roll non stop flyin' freak show of porn an' addition in the WHIRLED! (na...ain't buyin' it)
Frankly I think Israel doesn't care much how their citizens roll in terms of queerness... they gotz way bigger fish ta fry (like bein' surrounded by death-wishers) As long as they ain't promotin' gender chop chop mutilation surgeries fer tweens & teens, they kin march fer pride, fer simha torah, or ta John Phillip Sousa fer all I'd care... how nuts!
Let them fingerpointers in their own nappies EAT soiled pink diapers fer lunch!
Oh you are so good. So dead on! So clear! So concise!
You are so right. I did not originate this, but there is a great picture out on the internet of people marching with Queers for Palestine shirts. The other half of the picture is a bunch of chickens and the caption reads "Chickens for KFC". Just about right. Thank you. Pat for some sanity. Happy Gay Pride Weekend.
On the assumption that a genocide is taking place, the victims' homophobia is indeed irrelevant. Homophobes have human rights too. My question is not why queers support Palestine, but why they support Palestine *as* queers, as distinct from "people opposed to genocide".
Imo, this is a malignant manifestation of "intersectionality". All oppressions are interrelated. The white man is the opporessor; queers are oppressed; brown (say) people can't be oppressors, not even against brown queers. In reality, intersectionality would be exactly the recognition that brown queers are doubly fucked, but brown queers are killed and then their murderers are excused on grounds of white oppression.
I always voted for a leftist party that championed arab-israeli rights and gay rights. A gay Arab man I used to chat with voted for the Israeli right. I asked him "but why? There's a party that supports Arabs, and gays, and your party supports neither". His answer was that he's not as scared of Jewish racism as he is of Arab homophobia and he needs a strong Israel to survive. There's your intersectionality.
Wow. Fascinating and brilliant. Thanks.
Recently I stumbled across an excellent article on the “Canadian Zionist Forum” substack, which itself is based on a series of four articles on fathomjournal.org by retired professor of philosophy and bioethics Eve Garrard, who specialized in the psychological basis of evil - they offer a unique perspective on the underlying causes of antisemitism - highly recommended:
“Progressives for Terror & Queers for Hamas
How it makes a perverse, narcissistic sense“
Jan 16 2025
One of your best newsletters since I subscribed at the beginning of May, Pat.
"According to the pinkwashing conspiracy theory, the Israeli body politic made a decision to grant equality not out of any concern for LGBTQ+ people, but in a craven effort to get away with some master plan to oppress Palestinians.
Pinkwashing is an allegation that is sustainable only in an environment festering with the most extreme preexisting ideas of Jewish guile. Only through this bigoted lens could gay people possibly look at the situation in the region and declare Israel our enemy and Palestinians (their governments and, yes, their people, who according to opinion polls are among the most homophobic on earth) our ideological allies. On this, as on so much else, activists betray not only the people with whom we claim solidarity, but our very values themselves."
Recently, I think I commented in response to one of Pat's recent newsletters upon the observation of feminist psychologist Phyllis Chesler and two of her colleagues that younger feminists opposed to the joint effort to remove the violent misogynist Taliban from power two decades ago may be doing so in order to enhance their own claim to victimhood at the hands of the (western) "patriarchy" through association with a perceived "underdog".
I think there's another thread that runs through the abuse hurled at Israel as a "settler-colonial project" from people of any and all sexual preferences, who are either citizens of one of the European countries that once colonized parts of Asia, Africa and the Americas, or non-indigenous citizens of any of those former colonies. The Israeli stand-up comic Yohay Sponder got at it in response to a British woman, asking if she had ever looked at a map ... Israel so tiny you have to blow up the map 6 times to see it and even then, the name doesn't fit. So, whether you're a citizen of a European country that was formerly imperial power or a non-indigenous citizen of a former colony, you can cleanse yourself of whatever guilt you may feel over your country's past, and even present, by damning Israel. And of course, somehow it's been accepted as the natural order of things that parts of Asia and Africa that were conquered during the Islamic Conquests 1300 year ago, is for them to remain Muslim for eternity and never mind the ethno-religious minorities that have managed to survive, somehow, into the 21st century, primarily in a diaspora.
So yes, "pinksoiling" does seem a very fitting hashtag for the hypocrites who whitewash the violently homophobic Islamist entities that have brought so much suffering to Asia and Africa in order to revive former empires that just didn't happen to be European.
love it....pink soilin'! Eat too much fake food dye (like drinkin' the cherry kool aid?) an' then poopin' it out like so much verbal litterin' is as good an anal-oogie as I kin think of ha ha... What goes hand in hand (cheek ta cheek?) with this whole "Israel is really a fascist state an' just pretends ta be pro-gay state" bulloney is this angle they take ....
1. bb bans journalists from coverin' HamAss--hence state run press only! (now....HamAss / Al Jazz Era thugs that ain't jounalists are dubious sources fer sure...I won't justy-fry the bannin' but fergadsakes when Haaretz, the paper of wreck-herd, is a total anti-zionist lefty rag that trashes jus' bout anybuddy...how is that supressin the press?
2. Candace OW-in's insists Arabs live in gated slums so that ain't no democratic state--it's pure slavery....apartheid!.... an' the 20% of the pop-u-last that is Arab....if they live in Arab neibs that's by cherce but I think they do far better there than in Gaza...
3. b/c gubbamint there corrupt (ha! that's a rich one!) we got Biden bonin' his daughter, his son Hunter bonin' his dead bro's widow an' some underage chinese gals--an' BB is a corrupt fascist b/c he partook of spendy cee-gars an' Sara of some champagne & bracelets? CORRUPT?! I mean c'mon...
4. it's not a "free" place fer anyone (gays included) b/c they stop folks from travelin' an' imposed da green pass... THIS is true, rotten' an' yet the USA itself did it's own just as doity... here in NewYawk they had "Empire Pass"... same kinda Big B(r)other thing....
5. the "freedumbs" in Israel fer gays & their lettin' women have bigger roles in the IDF is b/c the entire state is one big orgy (shame on them?!) which they profit from MIGHTILY (such goes the accusation)--i.e. it's about MONEY MONEY MONEY (joos & money)...not about "real" freedoms. Noble judges of Israel's "moral character" say as a state it's the most Tower of Bable/Babylon sex-drugs-rock-n-roll non stop flyin' freak show of porn an' addition in the WHIRLED! (na...ain't buyin' it)
Frankly I think Israel doesn't care much how their citizens roll in terms of queerness... they gotz way bigger fish ta fry (like bein' surrounded by death-wishers) As long as they ain't promotin' gender chop chop mutilation surgeries fer tweens & teens, they kin march fer pride, fer simha torah, or ta John Phillip Sousa fer all I'd care... how nuts!
Let them fingerpointers in their own nappies EAT soiled pink diapers fer lunch!