Great article. We call it a two state solution but it’s more like a 23 state solution, or even 56 states with only one of them being Jewish, the rest Arab or Muslim majority states.
Sorry, but no. Gaza was the prototype for a 'palestinian' state and we all know what happened there. Israel can NEVER, EVER tolerate a terrorist state stuck right in its flank. Somehow, in every other conflict in the world, 'refugees' are absorbed by other nations. But the 'palestinians' have been kept in poverty and squalor so they could become exactly what they are: a band of angry, feral, Jew-hating murderers. THAT is what you want to make into a country next to Israel? It won't happen. It CANNOT happen.
Thanks for your comment. Cynthia is correct. But, also, we can't just say "It CANNOT happen." What should happen as an alternative? Most Israelis now recognize that the status quo was a failure. Containment didn't work, ultimately. Hamas needs to be neutralized, as does wider Palestinian extremism. But eventually, coexistence means two states. It may take decades, generations, but what is your alternative?
The alternative is Israeli sovereignty over Gaza, Judea and Samaria, massive settlement by Jews in those areas. military control, no voting rights for Palestinians who remain, no international aid to Palestinians who will learn to work for a living, and encouragement of Palestinians to emigrate to wherever they can. There can never be a Palestinian state west of the Jordan river, at least not if Israel is to survive.
Palestinian emigration is the only part of that solution that works. Voluntary or forced, that's up to them. Otherwise, they'll kill us in our beds no matter how rich we make them or if they have the vote or not. Gaza was last straw, but there were thousands of straws before that. Israel's greatest sin is incrementalism.
The 'palestinians' are taught from birth to hate Jews, that the Jews "stole their land" and that they should kill as many of us as possible. They don't want peace, they want the Jews dead. They have squandered billions and billions of dollars and they have refused the state that they don't even want multiple times. Do you REALLY think we can just cull out the Hamasniks and be left with docile, peace-loving 'palestinians'? If so, you are sadly, and tragically, mistaken.
Israel is the homeland of the Jews. The vast majority of the 'palestinians' are squatters from the last 100 years, drawn mainly to the work created by the Jews restoring our ancient homeland. There is NO SUCH THING as a 'palestinian' save for the Jew who have always had a presence. You know this, Pat. The 'pals' have zero claim to any of this property. None.
What to do with them? Good question. Jordan was supposed to be their home, but they managed to wear out their welcome there by attempting to kill Jordan's leaders. Which is pretty much what they do everywhere they go. Even their Arab brethren want nothing to do with the 'beloved' 'palestinians'. Frankly, they need to do something we Jews did after escaping from slavery in Egypt all those years ago...wander for 40 years. Or maybe 100 years. Those who hate, those who cheer murder, those who teach their children that Jews are descended from apes and pigs, and the children who were so indoctrinated, need to be removed from society and basically die off. The education of the generation born in whatever desert needs to be supervised so as to ensure that they do not become feral animals like their ancestors. Only after such a sojourn can they be reintegrated into the world society. And I would have the rest of their murderous Islamofascist cousins join them on this journey.
I think Pat Johnson was very clear that the Jew hate that currently motivates many Palestinians has to be extirpated before any state could be allowed. It could take generations. He is not suggesting allowing terrorists on Israel’s flank.
Your points are all correct, of course. And my assertion is that peace and coexistence will come when the Palestinians demonstrate they are willing to live in peace and coexistence. Not a moment sooner.
Perhaps we should take it step by step with the elimination of jihadism and terrorism around Israel. Any sane Arab (including Israeli Arabs) have a role to play. Perhaps after that step the options for the next one may become a little clearer.
There are plenty of alternatives to a full nation state:
A Mandate such as Palestine.
A Protectorate which is a state or territory that is partially controlled and protected by a more powerful nation but maintains some degree of sovereignty.such as Barbados.
A Colony which is a territory that is fully controlled and governed by a foreign power such as Hong Kong.
A Dominions - a former colony which had achieved a degree of independence but still acknowledges the former colonial power - Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
No Two State. Not now, not ever, you no doubt saw the Montreal incedent.
And similar incedents across the rest of Canada since that Fateful Oct 7th.
This is their Life's Mission, and they have successfully imported their mission, their project to the West.
It has spread, this cancer has, across this once great country, by the very people entrusted to educate our children. And if you think Israel is the Ultimate goal, then you are sadly mistaken. I think that you know that we are the ultimate goal. Soon you will see as in England a Labour MP ( Muslim) call for Blasphemy Laws, Sharia implemented for the Muslims by the British Government.
I wont bore you, I expect to see them push for the same drachonian law hear
Great article. We call it a two state solution but it’s more like a 23 state solution, or even 56 states with only one of them being Jewish, the rest Arab or Muslim majority states.
Once again, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you for your support.
"eventual two-state solution"
where "eventual" means "in the far distant future." As you yourself said, more or less.
Thank you for taking the time to write this.
Sorry, but no. Gaza was the prototype for a 'palestinian' state and we all know what happened there. Israel can NEVER, EVER tolerate a terrorist state stuck right in its flank. Somehow, in every other conflict in the world, 'refugees' are absorbed by other nations. But the 'palestinians' have been kept in poverty and squalor so they could become exactly what they are: a band of angry, feral, Jew-hating murderers. THAT is what you want to make into a country next to Israel? It won't happen. It CANNOT happen.
Thanks for your comment. Cynthia is correct. But, also, we can't just say "It CANNOT happen." What should happen as an alternative? Most Israelis now recognize that the status quo was a failure. Containment didn't work, ultimately. Hamas needs to be neutralized, as does wider Palestinian extremism. But eventually, coexistence means two states. It may take decades, generations, but what is your alternative?
The alternative is Israeli sovereignty over Gaza, Judea and Samaria, massive settlement by Jews in those areas. military control, no voting rights for Palestinians who remain, no international aid to Palestinians who will learn to work for a living, and encouragement of Palestinians to emigrate to wherever they can. There can never be a Palestinian state west of the Jordan river, at least not if Israel is to survive.
Palestinian emigration is the only part of that solution that works. Voluntary or forced, that's up to them. Otherwise, they'll kill us in our beds no matter how rich we make them or if they have the vote or not. Gaza was last straw, but there were thousands of straws before that. Israel's greatest sin is incrementalism.
The 'palestinians' are taught from birth to hate Jews, that the Jews "stole their land" and that they should kill as many of us as possible. They don't want peace, they want the Jews dead. They have squandered billions and billions of dollars and they have refused the state that they don't even want multiple times. Do you REALLY think we can just cull out the Hamasniks and be left with docile, peace-loving 'palestinians'? If so, you are sadly, and tragically, mistaken.
Israel is the homeland of the Jews. The vast majority of the 'palestinians' are squatters from the last 100 years, drawn mainly to the work created by the Jews restoring our ancient homeland. There is NO SUCH THING as a 'palestinian' save for the Jew who have always had a presence. You know this, Pat. The 'pals' have zero claim to any of this property. None.
What to do with them? Good question. Jordan was supposed to be their home, but they managed to wear out their welcome there by attempting to kill Jordan's leaders. Which is pretty much what they do everywhere they go. Even their Arab brethren want nothing to do with the 'beloved' 'palestinians'. Frankly, they need to do something we Jews did after escaping from slavery in Egypt all those years ago...wander for 40 years. Or maybe 100 years. Those who hate, those who cheer murder, those who teach their children that Jews are descended from apes and pigs, and the children who were so indoctrinated, need to be removed from society and basically die off. The education of the generation born in whatever desert needs to be supervised so as to ensure that they do not become feral animals like their ancestors. Only after such a sojourn can they be reintegrated into the world society. And I would have the rest of their murderous Islamofascist cousins join them on this journey.
You asked.
Haha. Yes, I did ask! Thank you.
I think Pat Johnson was very clear that the Jew hate that currently motivates many Palestinians has to be extirpated before any state could be allowed. It could take generations. He is not suggesting allowing terrorists on Israel’s flank.
Your points are all correct, of course. And my assertion is that peace and coexistence will come when the Palestinians demonstrate they are willing to live in peace and coexistence. Not a moment sooner.
Perhaps we should take it step by step with the elimination of jihadism and terrorism around Israel. Any sane Arab (including Israeli Arabs) have a role to play. Perhaps after that step the options for the next one may become a little clearer.
There are plenty of alternatives to a full nation state:
A Mandate such as Palestine.
A Protectorate which is a state or territory that is partially controlled and protected by a more powerful nation but maintains some degree of sovereignty.such as Barbados.
A Colony which is a territory that is fully controlled and governed by a foreign power such as Hong Kong.
A Dominions - a former colony which had achieved a degree of independence but still acknowledges the former colonial power - Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
Two states ARE the only solution, but it's called Israel and Jordan. I'm not wrong. Just early. Eventually EVERYONE will be calling for this.
The faster we embrace the inevitable, the more dead Jews we'll avoid.
Sorry Pat
Im back lol
No Two State. Not now, not ever, you no doubt saw the Montreal incedent.
And similar incedents across the rest of Canada since that Fateful Oct 7th.
This is their Life's Mission, and they have successfully imported their mission, their project to the West.
It has spread, this cancer has, across this once great country, by the very people entrusted to educate our children. And if you think Israel is the Ultimate goal, then you are sadly mistaken. I think that you know that we are the ultimate goal. Soon you will see as in England a Labour MP ( Muslim) call for Blasphemy Laws, Sharia implemented for the Muslims by the British Government.
I wont bore you, I expect to see them push for the same drachonian law hear
Israel must be the line in the sand.
One State Only Israel